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There's an open tag that needs to be closed - after the footnote the text is all appearing in small print.

Hmmm. I left it off on purpose, thinking that the font size would on affect the post in question. Oh well. Thanks, Lola.

It is a beautiful name.

You are certainly correct that it's usually the case that blacks in the U.S. with European names usually got them from slavery, although I suppose it's worth pointing out that this is not always so. After manumission, manly ex-slaves simply chose names for themselves, and wound up with names such as "Freeman" or "Lincoln" or "Brown" as a result. Nor would it surprise me if some of the Jeffersons running around took it through choice (yes Jefferson owned slaves, but the man's record on that was complicated and many admired him despite his hypocricy). Some few would have gotten it through intermarriage. And there was also a time in this country when immigrants very commonly would "anglicize" their names, either recasting them or shortening them to "sound American." Some African immigrants might do as much as anyone else. I'm not sure where Colin Powell got his name, for example, although I seem to recall reading that his family emigrated from a non-slaveholding region.

Not sure how you'd anglicize a name like "Ochieng" if you were so inclined to do so. Nor is that common anymore anyway. Just saying, if this were 100 years ago, your dad might have been encouraged to go by "Smith" or something.

Funny thing is here in Detroit, Arabs typically keep their last names but pick out an anglicize a first name. There are so many Arabs running around named Sam and Sal and Steve around here, you can just run into certain neighborhoods and yell one of those names and a dozen guys will say "What?" ;-)

Blah blah, woof woof, more information than you were looking for but you know me....

Jeez, Juliette, and here I was thinking you were Sino-Irish, and just dropped the apostrophe after the "O." :-)

If I had hyphenated, I'd have been pegged for a feminist for sure. It's a case of the sum of the parts being far greater than the whole. In Gs anyway.

Heather Igert-Noggle.

YUCK. (So I took his name).

Still, just a name. I'm certainly easy to find on Google - with either name. I'd imagine you are, too.

hln

I took my husband's name when we got married 22 years ago. If we were to divorce, I wouldn't change it back. If I were to remarry after a divorce or death, I probably wouldn't change it then, either. To me, it's really not worth the hassle of having to change my driver's license, SS card, and all of the other little things like checking/credit card accounts, etc. It's not a feminist thing or a proud name thing; I'm just lazy...

How about Juleen O'Keen? ;^)

I lean what?

Names (and identity) have always been fluid in the US.

Many people were had their surnames anglicized by immigration officials at Ellis Island (especially those from countries that didn't use the Roman alphabet).

There's the gold-rush song:

"Oh what was your name in the States?
Was it Turner, or Johnson, or Bates?"

In other words, some argonauts took advantage of the chaos in the camps to reinvent themselves.

Then of course, there's the John Wayne phenomenon, in which "Marion Morrison" disappeared for reasons of marketing.

I will probably take my husband's name when I get married. Just a preference I have. And since I live in Boulder I fully expect some flabbergasted reactions from militant misandrous feminists who can kindly go take a flying fuck and stay out of my business about it.

That said, Juliette, I love your last name. I have no idea what it sounds like but it looks cool as hell. I'd be hard pressed to give that one up, were it mine. I'm for whatever choice feels right to the person in question.

I grew up in a very germanic midwestern city. My last name is germanic and so are about 85% of the names of everything there: people, streets, hospitals, buildings, etc.etc. I had a social studies teacher with the name Lauderwasser in my senior year of high school who told me something amazing: lots of people anglicized their names during WWII to avoid association with Nazis or Nazi sympathizers. He was related to many of the 'Clearwaters' in town; his family just chose not to give up their heritage. Blew me away.

Some other interesting history.

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