Having it Both Ways

ABORTION CLAIM HITS PRESIDENT

George W. Bush had an abortion?

Ohhh…he knew someone who had an abortion. When? Last year? Five years ago? Bet Laura is PO’d. What? What’s that you say? It was thirty years ago, before he was married and before he became a Christian? Oh, okay then.

But, he should have stopped this woman from having that abortion. After all, abortion is the taking of innocent life.

What? Sheesh, what now? It’s not the taking of innocent life? Are you telling me that a fetus isn’t really a human being and is only a part of a woman's body? Are you saying that a woman has a right to chose what to do with her own body? Oh.

Then George W. Bush should not bear any sort of responsibility whatsoever for this phantom woman’s alleged abortion.

So what's the problem?

Keep trying, feces-slingers. Try using logic next time. (Of course, the pathetic accuser, Larry Flynt, is such an easy target.)

(Thanks to Lucianne.com)

Comments

[joatmoaf]

We all know that Larry Flynt never did anything immoral.

[Jason]

Ahh, but the rub is that Larry Flynt isn't proclaiming to be anything other than what he is. His politics and his actions are almost never contradictory.

Can the same be said for Mr. Bush?

[zombyboy]

The answer to that is two parts: people are allowed to change and grow. This was three decades ago, and I'm guessing there may well have been a little change and growth for President Bush in that time.

The second is that Flynt, whether he can proclaim himself completely free form hypocrisy or not, is still a disgusting human being who thrives on the kind of muckraking that you usually only find in fine periodicals like the National Enquirer.

I'm certain that President Bush, like most of us, has done things that he regrets or that he would not do now. That does not make him a hypocrite, it makes him a pretty normal person.

[Peter]

This story is a naked attempt to get a key segment of Bush supporters to sit out the election. It won't work for a couple of reasons.
First it's coming out too early. We remember the DWI story from the '00 election coming out the weekend before election day, it caused a great many of those who are generally known as the Religious Right to stay home.This, plus the massive fraud on the Dem's side, is the reason Gore 'won' the popular vote. Had that story come out a month, even two weeks before, it would have been a non-issue. Those voters would have had time to reflect on the meaning of 'born-again' They would have been able to reflect on Dubya's decade and a half of sobriety. They would have been able to remember the bumper sticker' Christians aren't perfect, just forgiven'.
Oddly, this story was being shopped around during the '00 election. It failled to gain traction. I understand that the woman allegedly involved was approached, the reporters involved retreated when her husband said to them that he'd sue their asses off if they named her. Since truth is an absolute defense in a libel suit I invite you to form your own conclusion.
If this story emerged on the Saturday before election day it would probably have an effect. Now it's nothing.
Actually it is something. Is it not interesting that the Party claiming to represent the little people goes to such lengths to keep them from going to vote?

[The Lovable Troll]

You know the press has sunk to a new low when it's Larry Flynt who gets the scoop.

[og]

What happened to all those Republicans Flynt was going to "out" years ago? Maybe there weren't that many after all?

[Sharon]

Outed by Larry...

Can we say, "Speaker of the House for a Minute" Robert Livingston? (see Clinton impeachment fiasco), ur, how about Henry Hyde (R-IL)...

Could all be hooey, could be facts. Bottom line, in Larry's possible article is the implication is that W paid for it. I'll give the guy a pass for for being a 20-something guy in the early 70s. A lot of guys back then would have cut and run.

It's not as if the Bushes were adverse to advocating for progressive reproductive health issuses for women back then. I mean his Dad was on the leading edge of family planning issues (contraception for singles) when he was a Congressman back in the late 60s and his mom is a pro-choice kind of girl, so at least that part of the Bush family reflects the values of most Americans.

Don't love the pix that Larry publishes, but he won't publish an article unless it's sourced.

[Jack]

Ummm...

Hate to be a contrarian, but how is this different than what Kerry did 30 years ago when he protested the Vietnam War????

Let's see, it's said this supposedly occurred " before he was married and before he became a Christian"?

Cut Bush's opponents the same slack, then...

[ic]

The whole thing was concoted. A Bush-hater named Moby has recently suggested that anti-Bushies should go to conservative chat rooms and spread rumours, as outrageous as possible. One suggested rumours was Bush paid for an abortion. He was sure the conservatives would blame Bush because they would believe there would be no smoke without fire. This follows the same path as the AWOL story, Bush has to defend the non-existing "scandal". Pretty soon the abortion story would be carried by the media and would be asked of McClellan how Bush has got away with that. Neat dirty trick, no?

[Mrs. du Toit]

Jack,

Something REMAINS relevant when it establishes a trend. If the act is never repeated (change in attitude, direction, beliefs, etc.) then we can pass it off as youthful ignorance and experimentation.

If, however, like Kerry's anti-war protesting, it is the first link in the chain of a lifetime spent sympathetic to and supporting of communist causes and regimes, it is still relevant.

[Monkey]

Baldilocks,

The Monkey is Curious as to what you think of Special Order 158 in Bush's documents?

It seems to indicate that the CinC of the TexANG VERBALLY ordered his CO to discharge him from the ANG into a paper unit so he could go to Harvard.

I was curious as to what your take on this was? Boilerplate? Or an officer covering his ass for following an order he might deem suspicious from the Governor of Texas?

[Queensbury]

IIRC, Abortion in Texas at the time was a crime.

A felony, in fact.

[Francis W. Porretto]

The timing is definitely bizarre. Something this damning (for a pro-life candidate) would have been an ideal "late hit," a la the DWI conviction (2000 presidential campaign) or the final-week revelation that Arnold Schwarzenegger had groped some women (2003 California Gubernatorial recall election). You want to give a vicious allegation like this just about exactly three days to work on the minds of voters -- which is also insufficient time to counter it.

In light of its introduction at this moment, I'm inclined to think it was an amateur's attempt to start a nasty rumor. Democratic strategists might have a few harsh words for that amateur, come the first Tuesday in November.

[ambra]

Brilliant, just brilliant.

[baldilocks]

But it's supposed to be a woman's choice, Sharon! Men have no say in what women do with their bodies so how can GWB have been responsible?

/liberal logic + sarcasm off

Jack,

You have not seen me mention one word about Kerry, his service or the immediate aftermath thereof, so why are you even bringing it up here?

[Tongue Boy]

Why, it's a woman's choice whether or not to bring an unviable tissue mass to full term -- *isn't it*? Why should it matter the source of the funding for this young woman's abortion? Perhaps young George was merely putting his money where his mouth was regarding this vitally important issue.

Unless, of course, he actually physically forced her to have the abortion. In which case he should be hounded unmercifully until he produces receipts, medical records, phone transcipts, and eyewitness testimony proving he committed no such heinous crime. Guily until proven innocent is what I say! Until then, the man should be considered beneath our contempt; what kind of rednecked knuckledraggers could possibly vote for this pile of garbage in 2004?

Disclaimer: This rant was a facsimile intended to illustrate the argument a Bush-hater with a predisposition to absolute abortion rights (which accounts for most Bush-haters) might make, if they dared to be consistent. Please do not attempt this argument in certain circles. The author is not responsible for abuse and calumny heaped on anyone appropriating and using this argument by tenured professors, New York journalists, Bay Area performance artists and other assorted members of the diversity-loving, tolerant chattering classes.

[baldilocks]

Monkey: Got a link to the document?

Queensbury: You actually have a date for this alleged occurrence? Do tell.

[baldilocks]

Tongue Boy: Excellent wielding of sarcasm; something I do admire. ;-)

[DANEgerus]

Classic projection... the (D)onks have made late blind-side fabrications a tactic and now cringe in fear that it might actually be used against them... so when Clark(D)+Lehane(D) hack Kerry(D) the (D)onks and the press enthusiastically tar the (R)'s for 'dirty politics'... as if the actual (D) tactics and their fear of reciprocity are some how equivalent.

Why is this ironic? Because it was Lehane(D) working for Gore(D) that spread the Bush-does-cocaine rumour so widely propagated just prior to the 2000 election by the partisan press.

Yes... the same Lehane+LATimes linked to the Gropenator fraud-meme.

In fact even discussing JFKerry's record is now a 'smear'... apparently because that record so very... very... bad.

As Lehane is an embittered ex-Kerry employee, and a tool of the Clintons... I'd say we can expect more blind-sides of JFKerry(D) to ensure Hillary2008 'saves' the (D) party.

Can't have JFKerry(D) win and blow Hillary's shot until 2012 now can we?

Even if this new fraud-meme were true... it won't matter... and if it might? Then Lehane-Hillary will see to it that worse comes out about JFKerry(D).

[Miguel]

Baldilocks, your posting is simply EXCELLENT. What a superb way of answering to those fanatics!